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General international talks - English only, please!

Post:15 lut 2010, 21:43
autor: StaryChemik
We have international guests here - so I guess it would be nice to start a special thread in English.

Wątek tylko w języku angielskim - posty po polsku będą usuwane - Stary Chemik.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:15 lut 2010, 21:46
autor: Alain
Thank You for this Special Topic !

I will be back tomorrow, thank you very much for welcome here :D

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:15 lut 2010, 21:48
autor: StaryChemik
I hope so, Alain! You've been already nominated French Vapers' Ambassador here :)

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:15 lut 2010, 21:50
autor: Alain
French Vapers' Ambassador *BOJE SIE* *BOJE SIE* *BOJE SIE* :oops: :oops: :oops:
Thank You
If someone want to post some interresting Polish article on my blog, please let me know - just pm me - :wink:

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:15 lut 2010, 21:51
autor: StaryChemik
Sure, Alain - the situation in Poland is still unclear, but we will fight!

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:15 lut 2010, 21:51
autor: mkk
I thank you too. I will try to be here, in this topic, tomorrow day. Goodbye :)

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 00:20
autor: scob
OK dear Hamster*. Just a little 'but'..
Are you absolutely sure that this forum has enough English-writing people, to keep this topic alive?
Or, maybe, You mean: 'International English' - as 'polglish', spanglish etc..? ;-)

* - Polish 'Chemik'/chemicist is similar in pronunciation to 'chomik'/hamster. The visual similarity has absolutely nothing in common.. ;-)

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 01:20
autor: lool3k69
Glad to know, that our forum support other language(s in the future maybe :D). I'm not a king of english but will check this topic sometimes with some knowledge from me. :wink:

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 01:23
autor: Tusia
http://vapersnetwork.org/

"To: UK Prime Minister
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to: 'ensure that electronic cigarette products and their use is regulated appropriately for recreational purposes rather than seek to define vaping as smoking, tobacco use or medical therapy... "

http://www.petitiononline.com/vaping/pe ... rans/en/pl

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 02:14
autor: Shadow
scob I think that we'll find some english writing/speking peoples here ;) (show me someone that doesn't/didn't have sth i common with EN)

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 07:28
autor: Kszywho
scob pisze:.... as 'polglish' ... ;-)

Scob-This is unfortunately true of our emigration, but... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 12:08
autor: głos
Welcome Alain. Let’s hope this is the historic moment when *CZAJNICZEK* *CZAJNICZEK* *CZAJNICZEK* International Society of the Celestial Teapot Lovers is born :D .

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 13:33
autor: TheL
I want Chinese thread, electronic cigarettes are from them.

wǒ xiàng suǒ yǒu bō lán rén

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 19:34
autor: Alain
I seen that some french esmokers had signed the polish petition :D

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:24
autor: głos
Thanks. Together we can change the World :-D

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:29
autor: Alain
I posted the petition link's to a Brasilian forum :D

http://e-cig.forumbrasil.net/english-e- ... 5.htm#4037

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:34
autor: Tusia
Fine :!: Thank you! :P

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:39
autor: Alain
can we speak about name shop here ?

I would like to know where you buy your electronic cigarette's ?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:42
autor: Tusia
Permitted

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:47
autor: Alain
Tusia pisze:Permitted

Thank you :D
Where did you buy your electronic cigarette's ?
Poland ?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:52
autor: Tusia

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 20:55
autor: iowa74
Here you have a good Polish Internet Shops
viewforum.php?f=89
Most purchases in Poland, some in Chinese, sometimes we buy in Europe

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 21:20
autor: Alain
Thank You

have you some official government information about electronic cigarette's ?

information from Ministry of Health ?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 21:30
autor: Tusia
Ministry of Health knows less than we do (???) ... give a lot of erroneous information.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 21:37
autor: Alain
Tusia pisze:Ministry of Health knows less than we do ... give a lot of erroneous information.

have we the same stupid ministers ? :lol:

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 21:38
autor: głos
You're asking questions with such a complicated answers :wink: One can say that electronic smoking is "kept in secret" by our "powers that be". There's not enough e-smokers to make a noise, so they r trying to smugle some unfriendly paragraphs into our law.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:16 lut 2010, 21:43
autor: Tusia
I read the French forum, we have the same problems with ministers :wink:

Everything with us is the same, even the problems and questions we have the same as the French e-smokers :wink: :lol:

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 17:12
autor: Alain
Yes absolutly the same problem.
No one want to say " go ahead with electronic cigarette's, they are better !
But no one can say , stop ecigarette they are dangerous !

A lot of money is the real problem

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:20
autor: Alain
Hi again
Please let me know what kinf of eliquide is most in use in Poland
PG or VG ?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:26
autor: Tusia
PG, DPG, VG (Intellicig - EcoPure), and little PEG-400
How does it look like in France?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:27
autor: StaryChemik
mostly PG (usually a mixture PG/VG) Alain... but some people prefer pure VG liquids.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:27
autor: Alain
what is DPG ?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:30
autor: StaryChemik
DPG stands for dipropylene glycol - quite similar to PG, but a bit more viscous.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:31
autor: Alain
StaryChemik pisze:DPG stands for dipropylene glycol - quite similar to PG, but a bit more viscous.

Thank you, i will search informations about this product


I would like to publish a full article about electronic cigarette in Poland.
Does someone can write something in Polish ?
I would be happy to put it on line with a link to this forum

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:17 lut 2010, 21:47
autor: Tusia
Who is willing to write a few words? :wink:
What would you like in the Polish text?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 00:19
autor: JimmyB
I heard French Vapers have some legal problems with e-cigs - really sad to hear Alan. We also had some government-related problems, but some of our politicians still have some small pieces of intellect left in their dumb heads ;-). Soo - you need some informations about legal situation of e-cigs in Poland? Or general informations about polish vapers? What kind of e-cigs we use mostly, where we buy them etc.?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 15:25
autor: Alain
I would like to have a presentation of the electronic cigarette's

how it works , how it made, why we like it and some sentence about polish law. :D

below the translation by google from the text in french. I hope it's enought clear :oops:

Elektroniczny papieros zwany także Ecigarette, E-papieros lub elektryczny papieros jest nowy inhalator generacji. Wynaleziony w 2003 roku przez japońskiego, nie jest uważane dotychczas przez organy służby zdrowia jako alternatywa dla tradycyjnych papierosów. Na sprzedaż w Internecie prawie 3 lata, elektronicznych inhalatorów są już dostępne w kilku formach: CPIA, ecigares, mini Ecigarette, itp. ...
Elektroniczny papieros jest najczęściej cylindryczne, ale w ostatnich miesiącach wiele innych modeli pojawiających się na rynku. Mod nazywa się termin oznaczający angielski ecigarette Ostatnia te modele mają pojemność i większą autonomię niż w przypadku tradycyjnych modeli.
Urządzenia te odtworzyć gesty tradycyjnych papierosów palacze mają niewiele problemów przyzwyczaić. Dym nazywamy parą jest produkowany przez odparowanie glikolu propylenowego z dodatkiem aromatów: jak tytoń, mentol, kawy i egzotycznych jak ananas, jabłko, kokos itp. ...
Pierwsze modele elektronicznych papierosów, do których "nowa efumeurs" ruchome, zazwyczaj w formie tradycyjnego papierosa i ledwie dłużej niż ich odpowiedniki. Niektóre modele nawet naśladować ich kolory - biały i filtr pomarańczowy baterii --
W chwili obecnej nie badania pokazują niebezpieczeństwa glikol propylenowy. WHO zaleca jednak, największą ostrożność w oczekiwaniu na dalsze badania i analizy. Glikol propylenowy mogą być zastąpione lub mieszane z gliceryną i warzyw. Należy pamiętać, że produkty te są również zawarte w skład dymu stosowane na przykład dyskoteka.
Oba te produkty mają zdolność do odparowania w temperaturze około 65 ° C. Elektroniczny papieros z jego systemu aerozolu (opór) osiąga w tej temperaturze podczas zasilany przez baterię o 4.2V.
Glikol propylenowy lub gliceryna przenika włókna roślin o nazwie "wad" topping wykorzystanych funduszy wkładów. Spray na kontakt z włókna, gdy ciepło jest dostarczane produktu i pozwolić jej "spray".
Kilka rodzajów wkładów są sprzedawane w zależności od modelu elektroniczny papieros używane. Są one zazwyczaj dostępne na 4 dawki nikotyny: zero, niska, średnia, lub HIG 0mg, 6 mg, 11mg i 18mg. Według zwyczajów palenia, dawkowanie to "nikotyna pasuje do" użytkownika.
Wreszcie należy pamiętać, że w przypadku braku badań potwierdzających niebezpieczeństwa glikol propylenowy lub wdychanie glicerol, bez badań dowodzi że są one bezpieczne zarówno. Dlatego do każdego do własnych opinii.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 15:30
autor: Tusia
So an article on e-cigarette e-smoking in Poland?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 16:35
autor: nicotina.pl
Bonjour,
Je pourrais aider a rediger des textes en polonais. Je "fume" une cigarette electronique depuis quelques mois, donc je connais la matiere. Ou bien je peux traduire quelque chose en francais (ce qui s'avere un peu plus difficile, mais il faut oser). Je vends les cigarettes electroniques et j'etudie la philologie romane, je suis en train de faire ma specialisation en traduction alors cela serait pour moi un exercice interessant. Excusez - moi le manque d'accents, mais ceux-ci n'existent pas dans ce traitement de texte.

I know that I should write only in english but I allowed myself a little french just to offer my help in potential translations polish - french, french - polish. I also wanted to prove that I do know french. I hope that nobody would think that I misbehaved.

Pozdrawiam.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 17:29
autor: Alain
Tusia pisze:So an article on e-cigarette e-smoking in Poland?

Yes absolutly :D

nicotina.pl pisze:Bonjour,
Je pourrais aider a rediger des textes en polonais. Je "fume" une cigarette electronique depuis quelques mois, donc je connais la matiere. Ou bien je peux traduire quelque chose en francais (ce qui s'avere un peu plus difficile, mais il faut oser). Je vends les cigarettes electroniques et j'etudie la philologie romane, je suis en train de faire ma specialisation en traduction alors cela serait pour moi un exercice interessant. Excusez - moi le manque d'accents, mais ceux-ci n'existent pas dans ce traitement de texte.
I know that I should write only in english but I allowed myself a little french just to offer my help in potential translations polish - french, french - polish. I also wanted to prove that I do know french. I hope that nobody would think that I misbehaved.
Pozdrawiam.

Merci de l'aide proposée et bravo pour votre français :D peut-être pourriez-vous traduire ce texte français en Polonais ?
La cigarette électronique également appelée Ecigarette, E-cigarette ou cigarette électrique, est une nouvelle génération d'inhalateur. Inventée en 2003 par un japonais, elle n'est pas considérée à ce jour par les autorités sanitaires comme une alternative à la cigarette traditionnelle. En vente sur Internet depuis près de 3 ans, ces inhalateurs électroniques sont désormais disponibles sous plusieurs formes : epipes, ecigares, mini ecigarettes, etc...

Une cigarette électronique a le plus souvent une forme cylindrique, mais depuis quelques mois de nombreux autres modèles apparaissent sur le marché. Appelés Mod's, terme anglophone désignant une ecigarette MODifiée, ces modèles sont pourvus d'une capacité et d'une autonomie plus importante que les modèles traditionnels.

Ces dispositifs reproduisant la gestuelle des cigarettes traditionnelles, les fumeurs n'ont que de très peu de mal à s'y accoutumer. La fumée dégagée que nous appelons vapeur est obtenue par vaporisation de propylène glycol auquel sont ajoutés des arômes : tabac like, menthol, café ou plus exotiques comme ananas, pomme, noix de coco etc...

Les premiers modèles de cigarettes électroniques vers lesquels les "nouveaux efumeurs" s'orientent, ont généralement la forme d'une cigarette traditionnelle et sont à peine plus longues que leurs homologues. Certains modèles imitent même les couleurs de celles-ci - batterie blanche et filtre orange -

A l'heure actuelle aucune étude ne démontre la dangerosité du propylène glycol. L'OMS recommande cependant la plus grande prudence dans l'attente études et d'analyses plus poussées. Le propylène glycol peut être remplacé ou mélangé à de la glycérine végétale. Notons que ces produits rentrent également dans la composition des fumigènes utilisés en discothèque par exemple.

Ces deux produits ont la faculté de s'évaporer à une température d'environ 65°C. La cigarette électronique grâce à son système d'atomiseur (une résistance) atteint cette température lorsqu'elle est alimentée par une batterie de 4.2V environ.

Le propylène glycol ou la glycérine végétale imprègne une fibre appelée "bourre" garnissant le fonds des cartouches utilisées. L'atomiseur au contact de cette fibre, lorsqu'il est alimenté va chauffer le produit et permettre sa "vaporisation".

Plusieurs types de cartouches sont commercialisées en fonction du modèle de cigarette électronique utilisée. Celles-ci sont généralement disponibles en 4 dosages de nicotine : Zéro, low, mid, hig soit 0mg, 6mg, 11mg et 18mg. Selon les habitudes du fumeur, le dosage correspond au "besoin de nicotine" de l'utilisateur.

Pour conclure, notons que si aucune étude ne prouve la dangerosité du propylène glycol ou de la glycérine par inhalation, aucun étude ne prouve leur innocuité non plus. Il appartient donc à chacun de se faire sa propre opinion.


Mais vous pouvez également le personnaliser avec les éléments propres à la Pologne

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 19:00
autor: nicotina.pl
Je le ferai demain au travail. Je poserai des questions si necessaire. Normalement, quand on traduit, on donne un nom d'institution en francais et puis le correspondent polonais.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 19:15
autor: Alain
nicotina.pl pisze:on donne un nom d'institution en francais et puis le correspondent polonais.

Aucun problème :D

Thank you all for help :wink:

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 19:22
autor: Tusia
I hope that we'll find out more from France. How to write an article put it in our forum, please. :)

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 19:29
autor: Alain
of course this article will be put here and linked from my website to your forum :D

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 20:59
autor: Alain
hey again

Have you in Poland also this crazy fashion for mod's ? Here in France, no one week without a new mod's *BOJE SIE*

Since the 510 model's, that works very well, just one new ecigarette, the KR808D using cartomiser

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 21:15
autor: INGRID
Alain pisze:hey again

Have you in Poland also this crazy fashion for mod's ? Here in France, no one week without a new mod's *BOJE SIE*

Since the 510 model's, that works very well, just one new ecigarette, the KR808D using cartomiser

Every month Polish supliers offer us something new, more trendy,better ergonomical shape and with higher battery capacity.An average fresh e smoker has a really hard nut to crack when he has to decide for one model.

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 21:25
autor: Alain
INGRID pisze:Every month Polish supliers offer us something new, more trendy,better ergonomical shape and with higher battery capacity.An average fresh e smoker has a really hard nut to crack when he has to decide for one model.

and at end it's more expensive than cigarettes :-D

we have the GG from greece, the SB and BB from UK, some model's from Germany

But Is there any Polish mod's ?

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 21:34
autor: JimmyB
We only have some self & home made e-cigs - there is unfortunetly no polish manufacturer off e-cigaretes. but soon we will have polish supliers of e-juice (not from china and good tested)

Could you plz provide link to some picturest of those e-cigs? (gg, bb..?:))

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 21:36
autor: maniak
JimmyB pisze:We only have some self & home made e-cigs
Alain, take a look at this one http://www.e-papierosy-forum.pl/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4313

Re: General international talks - English only, please!

Post:18 lut 2010, 21:43
autor: Alain
JimmyB pisze:Could you plz provide link to some picturest of those e-cigs? (gg, bb..?:))

The GG (Greek Goddess)
http://www.ecigarette-info.com/2009/07/ ... du-gg.html

The BB
http://www.ecigarette-info.com/2010/01/ ... -test.html

and the SB (Silver Bullet)
http://ecig-mag.com/20100124501/les-mod ... apour.html